What is your other Platonic Ideal of donut? (We got caught in a recursive argument about platonic ideals, because I kept pointing out that the platonic ideal of a table would be perfect for setting dinner on, and doing crafts on, and having quick sex on, and turning over and sliding down the snowy hill on, and turning on its side and using to protect you in a shootout, and using to support one end of the wing of your home built aircraft, and when you make the full list, pretty much every platonic ideal of everything is the same perfect item.)

There is a non-managerial tech ladder at work, and I have considered it. It's really competitive, though. I feel like it's a rock star thing and I'm a very solid session player instead.